The Banach–Tarski Paradox


Hey, Vsauce. Michael here.
There’s a famous way to seemingly create chocolate out of
nothing. Maybe you’ve seen it before.
This chocolate bar is 4 squares by 8 squares, but if you cut it like this and then like this and finally like this you can rearrange the pieces like so and wind up with the same 4 by 8 bar but with a leftover piece, apparently
created out of thin air. There’s a popular
animation of this illusion as well. I call it an illusion because it’s just that. Fake.
In reality, the final bar is a bit smaller.
It contains this much less chocolate. Each square
along the cut is shorter than it was in the original, but the cut makes it difficult to notice
right away. The animation is extra misleading, because it tries to
cover up its deception. The lost height of each square is
surreptitiously added in while the piece moves to make
it hard to notice. I mean, come on, obviously you cannot cut up
a chocolate bar and rearrange the pieces into more than
you started with. Or can you?
One of the strangest theorems in modern mathematics is the
Banach-Tarski paradox. It proves that there is, in fact, a way to
take an object and separate it into 5 different pieces. And then, with those five pieces, simply rearrange them.
No stretching required into two exact copies of the original item. Same density, same size, same everything. Seriously. To dive into the mind blow that it is and the way it fundamentally
questions math and ourselves, we have to start by asking
a few questions. First, what is infinity? A number?
I mean, it’s nowhere on the number line,
but we often say things like there’s an infinite “number” of blah-blah-blah. And as far as we know, infinity could be real. The universe may be infinite in size and flat, extending out for ever and ever without end, beyond even the part we can
observe or ever hope to observe. That’s exactly what infinity is.
Not a number per se, but rather a size.
The size of something that doesn’t end.
Infinity is not the biggest number, instead, it is how many numbers there are. But there are different
sizes of infinity. The smallest type of infinity is countable infinity.
The number of hours in forever. It’s also the number of whole
numbers that there are, natural number, the numbers we use when
counting things, like 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and so on. Sets like these are unending, but they are countable. Countable
means that you can count them from one element to any other in a finite amount of time, even if that finite
amount of time is longer than you will live or the universe will exist for, it’s still finite. Uncountable infinity, on the other hand, is literally bigger.
Too big to even count. The number of real numbers that there are, not just whole numbers, but all numbers is uncountably infinite.
You literally cannot count even from 0 to 1 in a finite amount of
time by naming every real number in between.
I mean, where do you even start?
Zero, okay.
But what comes next? 0.000000… Eventually, we would imagine a 1 going somewhere at the end, but there is no end. We could always add another 0.
Uncountability makes this set so much larger than the set
of all whole numbers that even between 0 and 1, there are more numbers than there are whole numbers on the
entire endless number line. Georg Cantor’s famous diagonal argument helps illustrate this.
Imagine listing every number between zero and one. Since they are
uncountable and can’t be listed in order, let’s imagine randomly generating them forever with no repeats. Each number regenerate can be paired with a whole number. If there’s a one to
one correspondence between the two, that is if we can match one whole number
to each real number on our list, that would mean that countable and uncountable sets are the same size.
But we can’t do that, even though this list goes on for ever. Forever isn’t enough.
Watch this. If we go diagonally down our endless
list of real numbers and take the first decimal
of the first number and the second of the second number,
the third of the third and so on and add one to each, subtracting one if it happens to be a nine, we can
generate a new real number that is obviously between 0 and 1, but since we’ve defined it to be
different from every number on our endless list
and at least one place it’s clearly not contained in the list. In other words, we’ve used up every
single whole number, the entire infinity of them and yet we
can still come up with more real numbers.
Here’s something else that is true but counter-intuitive.
There are the same number of even numbers as there are even and odd numbers. At first, that sounds
ridiculous. Clearly, there are only half as many even numbers as all whole numbers,
but that intuition is wrong. The set of all whole numbers is denser but every even number can be matched with a
whole number. You will never run out of members either
set, so this one to one correspondence shows that both sets are the same size. In other words, infinity divided by two is still infinity. Infinity plus one is also infinity. A good illustration of this is Hilbert’s
paradox up the Grand Hotel.
Imagine a hotel with a countably infinite number of
rooms. But now, imagine that there is a person booked
into every single room. Seemingly, it’s fully booked, right?
No. Infinite sets go against common sense. You see, if a new guest shows up and wants a room, all the hotel has to do is move the
guest in room number 1 to room number 2. And a guest in room 2 to
room 3 and 3 to 4 and 4 to 5 and so on. Because the number of rooms is never ending we cannot run out of rooms.
Infinity -1 is also infinity again. If one guest leaves the hotel, we can shift every guest the other way.
Guest 2 goes to room 1, 3 to 2, 4 to 3 and so on, because we have an infinite amount of guests. That is a
never ending supply of them. No room will be left empty.
As it turns out, you can subtract any finite number from infinity and still be left with infinity.
It doesn’t care. It’s unending. Banach-Tarski hasn’t left
our sights yet. All of this is related.
We are now ready to move on to shapes.
Hilbert’s hotel can be applied to a circle. Points around the
circumference can be thought of as guests. If we remove one point from the circle that point is gone, right?
Infinity tells us it doesn’t matter.
The circumference of a circle is irrational. It’s the radius times 2Pi. So, if we mark off points beginning from
the whole, every radius length along the
circumference going clockwise we will never land on the same point
twice, ever.
We can count off each point we mark with a whole number.
So this set is never-ending, but countable, just like guests and
rooms in Hilbert’s hotel. And like those guests,
even though one has checked out, we can just shift the rest.
Move them counterclockwise and every room will be
filled Point 1 moves to fill in the hole, point 2 fills in the place where point 1 used to be,
3 fills in 2 and so on. Since we have a unending
supply of numbered points, no hole will be left unfilled. The missing point is forgotten.
We apparently never needed it to be complete. There’s one last needo
consequence of infinity we should discuss before tackling Banach-Tarski.
Ian Stewart famously proposed a brilliant dictionary. One that he called the Hyperwebster.
The Hyperwebster lists every single possible word of any length formed from the 26 letters in the
English alphabet. It begins with “a,” followed by “aa,” then “aaa,” then “aaaa.” And after an infinite number of those, “ab,” then “aba,” then “abaa”, “abaaa,” and so on until “z, “za,” “zaa,” et cetera, et cetera,
until the final entry in infinite sequence of “z”s.
Such a dictionary would contain every single word.
Every single thought, definition, description, truth, lie, name, story.
What happened to Amelia Earhart would be in that dictionary,
as well as every single thing that didn’t happened to Amelia Earhart. Everything that could be said using our alphabet.
Obviously, it would be huge, but the company publishing it might
realize that they could take a shortcut. If they put all the words
that begin with a in a volume titled “A,” they wouldn’t have to print the initial “a.”
Readers would know to just add the “a,” because it’s the “a” volume.
By removing the initial “a,” the publisher is left with every “a” word sans the first “a,” which has surprisingly become every possible word.
Just one of the 26 volumes has been
decomposed into the entire thing. It is now that we’re ready to
investigate this video’s titular paradox.
What if we turned an object, a 3D thing into a Hyperwebster? Could we decompose pieces of it into the
whole thing? Yes.
The first thing we need to do is give every single point on the
surface of the sphere one name and one name only. A good way to
do this is to name them after how they can be reached by a given starting point. If we move this starting point across
the surface of the sphere in steps that are just the right length,
no matter how many times or in what direction we rotate, so long
as we never backtrack, it will never wind up in the
same place twice. We only need to rotate in four
directions to achieve this paradox. Up, down, left and right around two perpendicular axes.
We are going to need every single possible sequence that can
be made of any finite length out of just these
four rotations. That means we will need lef, right, up and down as well as left left, left up, left down, but of course not left right, because, well, that’s
backtracking. Going left and then right means you’re the same as
you were before you did anything, so no left rights, no right lefts and no up
downs and no down ups. Also notice that I’m writing
the rotations in order right to left, so the final rotation is the leftmost letter.
That will be important later on. Anyway. A list of all possible sequences
of allowed rotations that are finite in lenght is, well, huge. Countably infinite, in fact. But if we apply each one of them to a
starting point in green here and then name the point we
land on after the sequence that brought us there,
we can name a countably infinite set of points
on the surface. Let’s look at how, say, these four strings
on our list would work. Right up left. Okay, rotating the starting
point this way takes us here. Let’s colour code the point
based on the final rotation in its string, in this case it’s left and for that we will use purple.
Next up down down. That sequence takes us here.
We name the point DD and color it blue, since we ended with a down rotation.
RDR, that will be this point’s name, takes us here.
And for a final right rotation, let’s use red.
Finally, for a sequence that end with up, let’s colour code the point orange. Now, if we imagine completing this
process for every single sequence, we will have a
countably infinite number of points named and color-coded.
That’s great, but not enough.
There are an uncountably infinite number of points on a sphere’s surface. But no worries, we can just pick a point
we missed. Any point and color it green, making it a new starting point and then run every
sequence from here.
After doing this to an uncountably infinite number of
starting point we will have indeed named and colored every single point on
the surface just once.
With the exception of poles. Every sequence has two poles of
rotation. Locations on the sphere that come back to
exactly where they started. For any sequence of right or left rotations, the polls are the north and
south poles. The problem with poles like these is
that more than one sequence can lead us to them. They can be named more than once and be colored in more than one color. For example, if
you follow some other sequence to the north or south pole, any subsequent rights or lefts will be equally valid names. In order to deal
with this we’re going to just count them out of the normal scheme and color them all yellow.
Every sequence has two, so there are a countably infinite amount of them. Now, with every point on the
sphere given just one name and just one of six colors,
we are ready to take the entire sphere apart. Every point on the surface
corresponds to a unique line of points below it all the way to the center point.
And we will be dragging every point’s line along with it.
The lone center point we will set aside. Okay, first we cut out
and extract all the yellow poles, the green starting points, the orange up points, the blue down points and the red and purple left and right
points. That’s the entire sphere.
With just these pieces you could build the whole
thing. But take a look at the left piece. It is defined by being a piece composed of every point, accessed via a sequence ending with a left rotation.
If we rotate this piece right, that’s the same as adding an “R” to every point’s name.
But left and then right is a backtrack, they cancel each other
out. And look what happens when you reduce them away. The set becomes the same as a set of all points with names
that end with L, but also U, D and every point reached with no rotation.
That’s the full set of starting points. We have turned less than a quarter of
the sphere into nearly three-quarters just by rotating it. We added nothing. It’s like
the Hyperwebster. If we had the right piece and the poles of rotation and the center
point, well, we’ve got the entire sphere again, but with stuff left over.
To make a second copy, let’s rotate the up piece down.
The down ups cancel because, well,
it’s the same as going nowhere and we’re left with a set of all
starting points, the entire up piece, the right piece and the left
piece, but there’s a problem here. We don’t need this extra set of starting
points. We still haven’t used the original ones. No worries, let’s just
start over. We can just move everything from the up
piece that turns into a starting point when
rotated down. That means every point whose final
rotation is up. Let’s put them in the piece. Of course, after rotating
points named UU will just turn into points named U,
and that would give us a copy here and here.
So, as it turns out, we need to move all points with any name that is just a string of Us. We will put them in the down piece and
rotate the up piece down, which makes it congruent to
the up right and left pieces, add in the down piece
along with some up and the starting point piece and, well,
we’re almost done. The poles of rotation and center are missing from this copy, but no worries.
There’s a countably infinite number of holes,
where the poles of rotations used to be, which means there is some pole around
which we can rotate this sphere such that every pole hole orbits around without
hitting another. Well, this is just a bunch of circles
with one point missing. We fill them each like we did earlier.
And we do the same for the centerpoint. Imagine a circle that contains it inside
the sphere and just fill in from infinity and look
what we’ve done. We have taken one sphere and turned it
into two identical spheres without adding anything. One plus one equals 1.
That took a while to go through,
but the implications are huge. And mathematicians, scientists and
philosophers are still debating them. Could such a process happen in the real
world? I mean, it can happen mathematically and
math allows us to abstractly predict and describe a lot of things in the real
world with amazing accuracy, but does the Banach-Tarski paradox take it too far?
Is it a place where math and physics separate?
We still don’t know. History is full of examples of
mathematical concepts developed in the abstract that we did not think would ever apply
to the real world for years, decades, centuries,
until eventually science caught up and realized they were totally applicable and useful. The Banach-Tarski paradox could
actually happen in our real-world, the only catch of course is that the
five pieces you cut your object into aren’t simple shapes.
They must be infinitely complex and detailed. That’s not possible to do in
the real world, where measurements can only get so small and there’s only a finite amount of time
to do anything, but math says it’s theoretically valid and some scientists think it may be physically valid too. There have been a number of papers
published suggesting a link between by Banach-Tarski and the way tiny tiny sub-atomic
particles can collide at high energies and turn
into more particles than we began with. We are finite creatures. Our lives are small and can only scientifically
consider a small part of reality.
What’s common for us is just a sliver of what’s available. We can
only see so much of the electromagnetic spectrum. We can only delve so deep into
extensions of space. Common sense applies to that which we
can access.
But common sense is just that. Common.
If total sense is what we want, we should be prepared to
accept that we shouldn’t call infinity weird or strange. The results we’ve arrived at by
accepting it are valid, true within the system we use to
understand, measure, predict and order the universe. Perhaps the system still needs
perfecting, but at the end of day, history continues to show us that the
universe isn’t strange. We are. And as always, thanks for watching. Finally, as always, the description is full
of links to learn more. There are also a number of books linked
down there that really helped me wrap my mind kinda around Banach-Tarski. First of all, Leonard Wapner’s “The Pea and the Sun.” This book is fantastic and it’s full of lot of the preliminaries needed to understand the proof that comes later.
He also talks a lot about the ramifications of what Banach-Tarski and their
theorem might mean for mathematics. Also, if you wanna talk about math and
whether it’s discovered or invented, whether it really truly will map onto the universe,
Yanofsky’s “The Outer Limits of Reason” is great. This is the favorite book of mine that I’ve read
this entire year. Another good one is E. Brian Davies’ “Why Beliefs Matter.” This is actually
Corn’s favorite book, as you might be able to see there.
It’s delicious and full of lots of great information about the limits of what we
can know and what science is and what mathematics is. If you love infinity and math, I cannot
more highly recommend Matt Parker’s “Things to Make and Do in the Fourth Dimension.” He’s hilarious and this book is very very great at explaining some pretty
awesome things. So keep reading,
and if you’re looking for something to watch, I hope you’ve already watched Kevin
Lieber’s film on Field Day. I already did a documentary about Whittier, Alaska over there. Kevin’s got a great short film about
putting things out on the Internet and having people react to them. There’s
a rumor that Jake Roper might be doing something on Field Day soon. So check out mine, check out Kevin’s and subscribe to Field Day for upcoming Jake
Roper action, yeah? He’s actually in this room right now, say
hi, Jake. [Jake:] Hi. Thanks for filming this, by the way. Guys, I really appreciate who you all are. And as always, thanks for watching.

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Sphere is made from infinite number of points. I take the infinite and divide it by two piece. I got one piece that is infinite and the other piece that is….also infinite…i got two same infinites. Banach Tarski in three sentences.

In the even numbers vs all whole numbers. One set has elements that are not contained in the other set whereas every number in one set is contained in the other. How come we can say they have equal size

6:00 isn’t that number just going to be in the infinite list of numbers between 0 and 1? Just a repeat as it’s ‘infinite’

Ok but what.

I feel like I learned the knowledge of the universe but I also feel very stupid.

Like how.

How can one person make a video so controversial yet so simple?

*slow clap for Vsauce*

"Particles with high energy can collide into more particles than we started with" yes but they lost energy, Michael!

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If 1+1=1, then we can subtract 1 from both sides, leaving us with 1=0. If that's true, then you can start with something and end up with nothing. That sounds weird enough when considering physical objects, that are either matter or energy, but it could also be applied to information. This means that if this principle is correct, then information CAN be destroyed. Science has said otherwise for decades.

12:58 Hey, guy, you are wrong here! The set of all LRUD rotations is uncountably infinite, as its cardinality is 4^{aleph_0} which is continuum.

I’m glad Hilbert never went into the hotel business. I would get rather annoyed having to move every time someone booked a room or checked out. Geez. What a silly mathematician.

I don't see this happening in the real world. One of the fundamental scientific principles is that matter cannot be infinitely divided. There is always some base particle that cannot be divided, therefore we cannot divide a real sphere into infinitely many points. Conservation of matter still holds up, checkmate mathematicians, this was fun, let's play again sometime.

Then again, fundamental scientific principles have been disproven in the past, so what the hell do I know?

People that can easily comprehend and explain this are the closest to understanding 4 dimensional thinking and spaces

Infinite amount of jokes derived from this video:

1. Vsauce's wife comes home: What the hell happened to all my choc… "Michael, have you been telling people about that stupid Banach Tarski thing again!?"

2. True Fact: The Banach Tarski Paradox is dwarfed by the MORE infinite amount of gender pronouns the trans community wants me to remember.

3. Whoa! This guy is a pervert! He keeps talking about going to a "Grand Hotel" and about "huge" "poles" thrusting "left to right," or "right to left," and then "up and down" and "down and up," inside of holes, and then all the possibilities (read sex partners) but in the end, one becomes two which is essentially how babies are made. Yikes, I watch too much porn.

4. Mom! I'm going to need some scotch tape. I just doubled my money after watching this cool guy on Youtube.

5. Me: Vsauce, sir, nice video, but you're wearing a bright royal blue Casio G-shock watch (Model GBA-800-2ACR) – and I'm afraid you've proven yourself wrong because Casio is a great example of a company that can design an infinite amount of watches x an infinite amount of different colors. Now, factor in that they come with 10 year batteries and the time on each one times the color times the number of models is sixfinite terragigatrillion infinity, plus or minus 1.

Vsauce: Touche Casio watch company.

6. Me: I've told you a million times you exaggerate too much.
Vsauce: I've told you an infinite amount of times minus a million that you exaggerate too much.

Me: (after much thought) – You win.

Okay so i dont really understand how this could work with common matter or sub atomic particles but with space amd time itself i could see this making alot more sense

As an answer to Bill reaction to my first comment, here is a post in several parts. 1/2 It is very delicate to express oneself on those subjects making what we meant clear. Because this clarity does not depend only on the one expressing himself, but also and mainly on the one receiving and reacting to the information. I did not mean to be disrespectful when I stated immaturity. Everyone of us goes from immature states in his life to more mature states while getting clearer in his mind what was not clear yet, what was still confused or confusing. I reacted because I am preparing a book to be published in the coming years about new ways of considering and understanding the concept of infinity (and with PRACTICAL value, which shows by the way infinity is not “to be reached” and is already solved in ourselves and the consciousness process of each individual. In this way it can be absolutely and simply “proved” as regard to…what it is (and was seen as a problem which it is not) …and what it is about something which has been solved). Tough things cannot be described ONLY as regard to infinity. They also can, and ABSOLUTELY HAVE to be described as regard to finity. When a mathematician wants to show us the concept of infinity, it always uses the expression of multiplicity, and not oneness. It is as he was speaking about cats, but he truly shows dogs. (Most of the time he is not conscious at all about doing so; he is not conscious about being illogical.) Oneness expresses itself through and by the mean, of several aspects and not one (and oneness is not the number 1 as a number, which is just a number among others). Put in simple words, infinity is not one thing, it is TWO things. To understand clearly those subjects, precise definitions have to be presented, and also why some concepts and ideas are confused one with the other, while they should not be confused if we want to bring some clarity. For example we confuse very often finity with limit, making us think infinity is incompatible with finity. Infinity and finity don’t exist alone, one WITHOUT the other. The first absolutely necessary step to go through and to acquire in order to understand these matters more clearly, is to cease to reason or think with a “3rd party exluding logic”. One thing is always THE PROOF that its contrary exist. Period. This is a mode of "3rd party INCLUDING and non-excluding logic" (not Aristote logic which has become insufficient for understanding our place in the universe and deeper realities). Once that said, understood and accepted (One thing is always THE PROOF that its contrary exist) we can only BEGIN to understand clearly and deeply. It is not difficult to prove for example and realize that we are eternal. Memory can displace itself from one point in time to the other, making us feel what is related to those points in time as accurately as if we were in those points of time. Mental is not at all affected by the time passing (macromaterial level is; but we know several states of matter and not only one, and each one knows different laws. In addition mental is not to be considered as not having any relation to what is bonded to and submissed to time (and…ends) in our structure because everything is coordinated). Not only that, but the existence of mortality IS THE PROOF immortality also exist, because one concept has its definition and sense relatively to the other. So, taking this example, there are BOTH things which are mortal and things which are not (don’t change) while passing through “a death”. That is true for the universe AS WELL as for ourselves, because "we are made of the universe itself". By the way death is an end. An end which allows a beginning to happen, and life to continue. At this moment infinity knows an end (again…) and life can continue in a SIGNIFICANT and evolutive way. Death or ends are necessary for a potential which was contained into infinity (AND COULD NOT DEVELOP ITSELF FURTHER) to become cinetical (becoming able to do or apply a work). A lot of scientists and physicists have understood the necessity of the existence of immortality, and has understood how and why the consciousness is necessarily immortal.

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